“We Are Not a Glum Lot” is a thing you might hear somebody say in one of the secret book club meetings that often happen in church basements. The point of the statement is that if you gotta get sober, it doesn’t mean you gotta get boring or lose your sense of humor or end all the fun in your life. These fellas up near Syracuse NY have a great podcast about sobriety and 12 step recovery and are just a great hang. And check it out! It’s my first two-part podcast appearance!
I loved this conversation with Brett and Mark because they’re funny guys themselves and we got deep into how we all use creativity as a way to find joy and cut loose in sobriety. Mark had no less than 15 guitars in his studio and it took everything in my body to resist playing the first two measures of Smoke on the Water for two hours straight instead of sharing my story.